Pattaya is a good place for lots of fun, There are some idiots there, But there are idiots in EVERY place in the world, So just get on with your fun and ignore them. I think the people on here who are bad mouthing Pattaya have probably had broken hearts by some bar/gogo girl ha ha, Or been ripped off somehow. Get over it guys and start enjoying yourselfs

I go there 2 times a year, I’ve met a good mate out there who i regularly see when i visit pattaya, He is getting married to a Thai girl in December, I’ll miss the wedding but i’ll be taking them to Koh Phangan as a wedding gift, I love Thailand, It’s great ha ha, I have been going for about 10 years now (i’m 28). I had a Thai girlfriend for 3 of the years, I met her in club xzyte on a friends birthday party do, She was there on her university holiday from Sripatum University in Chonburi. I’m not with her now though …. Long story LOL not LOS ha ha.

Can anybody give me any info on Koh Phangan? I’m going to stay in Pattaya at the end of December then i’ll fly to Koh Samui to get a ferry to Koh Phangan, Do you think i should book my hotel room before i go? I just go to Koh Phangan and pay when i check in somewhere? (Which is what i usually do in Pattaya).

Cheers,

Danny.

RE: BAR CODE - lady drinks and/or tips - Some bargirls do stick around, even if a guy has not offered them a drink. In some cases it is a matter of, “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun!”

Rob and Nick, I agree and I think you summed it up. If you don’t like a place don’t spoil the fun for others who do like that particular place. There is no accounting for individual interpretation, but we should enjoy what Thailand has to offer.  Party on!

Simom, you are entitled to your opinion, but many guys would disagree with you. More and more guys I know are visiting Pattaya. I know top Managing Directors of HUGE Companies, who look forward to a brief sojourn down in Pleasure Playground. Usually speaking, the violence comes to those in Pattaya who are looking for it. One should be more streetwise (street smart) whilst in Pattaya, but most guys I know have a great time.  RE: INTERNET - The internet so often presents such a biased viewpoint.  It is very often only ever the Westerner’s opinion, or version of events.

Bangkok Barry, I never said that the customers have to pay the girls’ salary. In the West you have to buy a woman a drink just to find out what her first name is. It is a friendly gesture to offer a Thai woman a drink, whether she is a bargirl or a traditional Thai woman.

Dave - it is not the customers job to pay the girls a living wage. It is their employer. I know it’s the same with restaurants around the world, but that isn’t the point. Why should restaurant/bar owners expect customers to pay part of their staffs wages?

You have said yourself that Pattaya can be very dangerous and I doubt if it has transformed itself in the last few months. It was okay five years ago, with lotsa cheap hotels and sex but now with both rising prices and violence, the risk-reward equation makes it more of a miss than anything else.

For sure, you might get a few hi-so types slumming it in the Hard Rock hotel, probably an absolute disaster given what the average farang is like down there and the impression they come away with.

High season is a disaster in Thailand from long termers point of view, but by all means encourage people to go to Pattaya, way past its sell-by date!

Rob, can you be more specific, what was rubbish?

Bangkok Bad Boy, I see you are back to your “Bad Boy” image on Pattaya.  I had to delete your foul language, but it is obvious that you despise the place.  Your hatred of Pattaya is no secret.  OK, that is your opinion. 

For your information - certain go-go bars in Soi Cowboy are now the most expensive in Thailand.  Four go-go bars in Cowboy now charge 150 Baht for a lady drink (cola), and an astronomical 200 Baht for a lady drink (Tequila).  Most go-go bars in Nana Plaza have very reasonable lady drink prices.  In some Soi Cowboy go-go bars this also applies to customer drinks too. 

#1. I can’t believe you’re seriously suggesting that the “hi-so” crowd are embracing Pattaya. The place is an utter dive. I realise that Angelwitch has a branch in Pattaya, but even still - here’s my usual rejoinder:

Yeah, Pattaya is a total f****** s***-hole. A napalm attack would do the whole world a lot of favours.

100% of male Pattaya visitors are total scumbags. And everyone who dies there deserves it. And everyone who doesn’t die there should.

A friend of mine, in a UK prison (for eight more years, poor guy) tells me that Pattaya is pretty much the only thing the prisoners talk about.

Bring on the napalm. #

Perhaps we have different definitions of the phrase “hi-so”…

#2. ฿130 is expensive for a 330ml beer. Wholesale price is around ฿30. That’s approximately a 333% markup. The gogo bars at Saphan Kwai manage to turn a profit selling 660ml beers for ฿120. I wonder where the money goes at NEP sometimes…

I never give 1,000 Baht tips, well only if I get a shag.

See ya soon

Steve